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this is me trying to bribe Fujino to change the ending
I also have a similar mindset. I understand not everyone knows about the 2 endings that Fujino mentioned, but also like if the genre is NTR it's probably best to go in with the mindset that it ends with a typical NTR ending. While there are some games that allow the player to get a different ending, we can at least assume that this one is like 99.9% just going to be a normal corruption NTR ending. After all, it's been like this for almost 2 years worth of development. It would be really weird to suddenly go back on it, but also that it would just further derail kind of everything that was going on. My assumption on games where there is a possible happy ending are games that intentionally convey that by the author, or the game mechanics shown in the game.
So in SAO part 1, it's just a CG hunting game with hot scenes, and a nice sense of mystery as to what's going on. Part 2 is much more story focused than its part 1 counterpart, but part 1 already indicated that there was no real "choice" in your decision making. The only choices you were capable of was finding all the side content scenes and that's about it. I sure hope people don't go too nuts if the end of this game is what was typically expected since probably the beginning.
Another thing that was discussed is that people were thinking that the endings would be less like "routes" and just more like endings. So the main pivotal moment would be at the literal end. But as King mentioned, your prurience stat would probably be the indicator on whether you're given the option to go on the "happy cuck ending". It's not really meant to be much deeper than that I imagine though.
this game ending would literally end fujino, simply nothing tops SAO and no other universe would be as exciting as this
I agree that the story is aight. It's nothing crazy to think it's a novel, but it gets you from point A to point B in a relatively decent manner. Like sure someone can point out plot holes or the lack of canon consistency, but the game is indeed a parody, and also decently believable. A lot of points are usually nit-picky with a much higher standard in terms of story writing. But anyways, when I mention it gets you from point A to point B, it's like how people don't like the reason for Asuna finally "falling" in the most recent update. Some might say it's cliche, or call her a hypocrite. But it's at least believable enough within NTR/Hentai logic why she's nuts, considering you go in with the general assumption that the NTR heroine has a number of screws loose to be capable of being corrupted to begin with.
I kind of agree that if this wasn't SAO, it wouldn't be as popular as it would be. Asuna is a pretty popular character to NTR after all. The SAO title definitely made me look at the game, but the part that made me super excited/stay was the combat sex rofl.
- Oct 14, 2018
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Yeah, very believable if literally every character in the game is involved in making the 'fall' happen!
The thing i think people didin't like was the fake Kirito scene as trigger, if you think about it that was unnecessary, the way Inoda manipulate her about her putting to much pressure in Kirito and his performance issues was enough.
It's like Asuna was given by Kirito a reason/excuse to cheat, shifting the blame more or less, if Fujino had left the fake kirito out the fall would be more authentic, she woukd have choose by herself.
Let's face it 4 Inoda need all the help he can get and then some, even in Fujino universe that guy never would pull that off without helpYeah, very believable if literally every character in the game is involved in making the 'fall' happen!
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I think at the moment there is no such thing as a "Happy ending" in this game. No matter how good Kirito's revenge was, no matter how Inoda suffered, we all, as players, know on behalf of Kirito that Asuna has already changed and she already has the mindset of a fallen woman. That is, in the end, the "Happy Ending" is where Kirito stays with the slut Asuna, whom he can no longer trust.
As they say - "Everything will not be the same as before"
You know what kind of ending would be really good. Do you remember, maybe, the secret ending of Far Cry 4? Good ending - Asuna and Kirito pass by Inoda at the beginning of SAO Part 1. And then the credits.
As they say - "Everything will not be the same as before"
You know what kind of ending would be really good. Do you remember, maybe, the secret ending of Far Cry 4? Good ending - Asuna and Kirito pass by Inoda at the beginning of SAO Part 1. And then the credits.
I mean if you really think about it, that's kind of what happens in a lot of NTRs to begin with. The entire world is against the MC because that's kind of the whole point of the story. On a more technical/nit-picky aspect though, our viewpoint of the whole situation is more bias and omniscient to the whole thing. Like everything going from Kirito and Asuna's current perspectives, the only people seemingly causing Asuna's fall is just Inoda and Liz. Suguha, Alice, Klein, and council's interaction is something the characters have zero clue as to what's going on. And sure it's really "convenient" that everyone acts in a certain way to all coincide with making Asuna fall, but it is what it is.Yeah, very believable if literally every character in the game is involved in making the 'fall' happen!
The thing that can be appreciated is that the idea of Asuna going to the underground was something that was hinted at a long time ago, and it's things like that, that make the writing at least "decent". But don't get me wrong I've already said my peace about how I think the whole secret society/council stuff is probably the worse thing done by Fujino. The game didn't need to go on a much grander/bigger scale. It reminds me of some low quality JRPG storyline.
The pressure statement from Inoda wouldn't have been enough to convince Asuna. Inoda could have mentioned the small penis, and pressure stuff about Kirito, but Asuna would have probably took that as a sign to talk to Kirito and reconcile their relationship. What's important is that Asuna is distraught and significantly vulnerable by believing that Kirito is banging a girl in the underground. The scene she sees is what makes Inoda's story even more believable to her, and it also makes her less resistant to his advances to get her to the point of having virtual sex. A lot of the virtual sex is Inoda taking advantage of her extremely confused mind/state, and manipulating the kind of conclusion she'll get to from the circumstances surrounding her situation.
But I do understand that people don't like how it gives Asuna a reason/excuse. But honestly if Asuna didn't fall after the end of Part 1 from her sexual compatibility with Inoda, then overall the story would have continued to drag out at this point. It was discussed multiple times that due to how the story is being written that Asuna needs a catalyst to willingly take the plunge considering everything else didn't work so far. But anyways, the reason/excuse that Asuna gets to use is definitely more on the "cliche" side, but as mentioned above, it's the only one that would make sense/work at this point.
A point in favor of the fake Kirito scene is that a lot of how Asuna "falls" is through a lot of manipulated misunderstandings and taking advantage of vulnerable moments. This is one of those moments whether people like the execution or not.
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That is not true. Think in Part 1 whose help did Inoda have? He planned those thugs to attack Asuna so he can save her and get her into his debt. He stole Kirito's apartment key so Asuna can't go there during Lustful Night. He used his Asuna's sympathy and Kirito not seeing him as threat to get away from his crimes. All his wins were from his efforts alone. Only in Part 2 did he get all the help from Liz, Kyouko, and even divine help from Administrator.
Going to undercity was expected but you have to admit, the timing was too perfect and beyond coincidence. The fact that when Asuna was looking for Kirito in the brothel at the exact moment that Flora and her partner having the item/spell to make her partner look like Kirito was a Administrator perfectly timed event. I admit the event was necessary since without the shock of seeing Kirito with another women Asuna would not have agreed to Inoda's BS reasoning about Kirito's stress but I did not like the circumstances of the event.
I will concede that the fake Kirito being too coincidental is probably its biggest flaw since I remember discussing months ago that I think that the whole endgame plan/hint was that Flora was going to take Kirito into her room and either rape him, or do enough suggestive things for Asuna to at least get shocked. It would have made more sense to go this route, considering that Suguha in her Flora persona would be able to get away with it, since Kirito for whatever reason cannot tell it's Leafa at all rofl.
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Seriously the easier and more believable scenario for me would be Kirito coincidentally meets Flora in the brothel. He needs to search her room and she lets him. She uses her freeze ability on Kirito and then does some sexual activity on his frozen body. This is when Asuna sees them. They would be more likely to believe it is Kirito since they know Kirito doesn't move much during sex.
Still some coincidences but a lot more believable.
NTR and happy endings is only possible when you can avoid the NTR, but your analogy with Far Cry 4 ending when you do nothing and win is good if Kirito also do nothing and leave all behind.
One big motivator for Inoda is envy and to spite Krito, when you remove kirito from the equation whats left for Inoda 3 crazy sluts and a bunch of kids. Some NTR stories where the MC move on, the slut stays with the bull but soon after he tell her to kick rocks because the thrill is gone and the routine sets in, and she end up miserable, thats is a good ending.
Calling all bros, I Require someone to give me a big help if possible, I Got to the part of the game where kirito is on the roof with Liz testing the goggles and then my PC Broke, After repairs i really do not want to have to replay a massive chunk on the newest version, anyone got a save at or close to this moment but not after it? Would be much appreciated. SOMEBODY SAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEE~
- Oct 14, 2018
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A golden rule of storytelling: if you can achieve the same result without using 10 characters, then don't use them
tbh, idk why he changed that, it worked just fine in part one, simple and effective